Property Profits Real Estate Podcast

Buy and hold investing may not be flashy, but it has helped investors build wealth for generations.
Jennifer Ruelens joins Dave Dubeau to explain why patience is one of the most valuable assets in real estate. Drawing on more than two decades of property management experience, she shares why long term ownership continues to outperform the pursuit of quick profits.
During the conversation, Jen introduces her "five way payday" framework and explains how cash flow, appreciation, mortgage paydown, tax benefits, and inflation protection work together over time. She also discusses why investors often overestimate short term cash flow and why a small portfolio of well managed properties can create meaningful long term wealth.
Key Topics
Why buy and hold investing still works
Jen's "five way payday" framework
The role of property management in protecting investments
Why five stable rental properties may be enough
Common mistakes investors make when chasing cash flow
Building generational wealth instead of quick profits
Guest Information
Jennifer Ruelens
Hold It With PM Jen
Website: HoldItWithPMJen.com
Podcast, playbook, resources, and social links available on her website.
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Learn more about Jen's educational resources, podcast, and buy and hold investing approach at HoldItWithPMJen.com.

The best value add plan is not always the one you start right away. Chris Lento explains why waiting for the market can produce better long term results.
Description
Chris Lento, Managing Partner of EM Capital, joins Dave Dubeau to discuss how multifamily investing has changed over the past few years. Instead of relying on rapid rent growth or market appreciation, Chris explains why today's environment rewards strong operations, careful expense control, and disciplined decision making.
The conversation covers how EM Capital manages nearly 1,200 apartment units across the Southeast, how they motivate onsite teams with owner funded incentives, why investor communication matters during difficult markets, and how they are exploring AI to improve capital raising, acquisitions, and operations.
Key Topics
Building systems for better asset management
Waiting for market support before renovating units
Managing investor expectations during longer hold periods
Finding off market opportunities through broker relationships
Using AI to improve operations and decision making
Guest Information
Chris Lento
Managing Partner, EM Capital
Website: www.emcapitalgroup.com
LinkedIn: Available through the EM Capital website.
Call to Action
Learn more about Chris Lento and EM Capital by visiting www.emcapitalgroup.com. Connect with Chris on LinkedIn through the website.

Strong operations can create just as much value as finding the right deal.
Many investors focus on acquisitions or raising capital, but Paula Nichols believes the real opportunity begins after closing. In this episode, she explains how operational excellence has helped her team improve multifamily properties across Texas and Oklahoma.
Paula shares her practical approach to asset management through her Three Ps framework: People, Performance, and Physical Property. She explains why selecting the right property management partner is critical, how reviewing budgets and vendor contracts uncovers hidden opportunities, and why regularly walking a property helps prevent costly surprises.
If you're interested in multifamily investing, this episode offers practical examples of improving property performance through better operations rather than relying only on renovations.
Key Topics
Building value through operational excellence
The Three Ps: People, Performance, and Physical Property
Choosing the right property management company
Finding savings in service contracts and operating expenses
Improving occupancy through stronger operations
Protecting long term value through proactive maintenance
Guest Information
Paula Nichols is a principal at Apogee Capital. She focuses on multifamily asset management and operational performance across a portfolio of approximately 1,200 units in Texas and Oklahoma.
Website:ApogeeMFC.com
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To learn more about Paula Nichols and Apogee Capital, visit:
ApogeeMFC.com

Manage for the bad years, not just the good ones.
After 57 years in commercial real estate, Luis Belmonte says the biggest lesson isn't how to maximize profits during a boom. It's how to build deals that can survive the next recession.
In this conversation, Luis shares the unexpected way he entered real estate after returning from Vietnam, how he became one of the original founders of what is now the largest REIT on the New York Stock Exchange, and why decades of experience have taught him to think differently than most investors.
He also explains why his company focuses on neighborhood retail properties, affordable housing developments, and smaller investments where the partners maintain greater control.
Key Topics
Starting a real estate career by accident
Lessons learned through multiple market cycles
Why every investment should be stress tested for a recession
Building Walgreens developments and affordable housing projects
Why Luis prefers smaller deals over institutional investments
The importance of long term fixed rate financing
Guest Information
Luis Belmonte is a commercial real estate developer, investor, author, and one of the original founders of what became the largest REIT listed on the New York Stock Exchange. He is the founder of Seven Hills Properties and author of several books, including Real Estate 101 and Street Dog MBA. His books are available on Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and Audible formats.
Call to Action
Check out Luis Belmonte's books on Amazon to learn more from his decades of experience in commercial real estate.
Listen on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/property-profits-real-estate-podcast/id1445202776 

Most networking events happen in a meeting room. Lee Fjord decided to bring investors directly to apartment communities instead.
In this episode, Lee shares how his monthly Tours and Pours events allow investors to walk through real apartment properties alongside the owners. Instead of simply hearing about deals, attendees get to ask questions, tour the buildings, and learn how experienced operators built their businesses.
Lee also explains how this simple idea grew into a community of more than 3,500 members and helped him find business partners, connect with passive investors, and raise capital for multifamily syndications. The conversation also explores his current investment strategy, the benefits of self managing properties close to home, and why long term ownership remains a core part of his approach.
Key Topics
Building a 3,500 member multifamily community
Why property tours create better learning opportunities
Finding business partners through networking
Raising passive capital from community members
Self managing multifamily properties
Setting yearly goals and tracking progress
Guest Information
Lee Fjord
Founder of Green Forest Capital
Website: greenforestcapital.com
Call to Action
Connect with Lee through Green Forest Capital and book a call through his website to learn more about his multifamily investing approach.

Helping People First Creates Better Deals
Finding off market deals is not about using the latest marketing trick. Sharon Vornholt explains why understanding people's situations and building trust creates better opportunities over time.
Sharon shares how probate investing became the foundation of her business after the 2008 financial crisis forced her to completely change her investing strategy. She explains how probate works, why it provides a consistent source of motivated seller leads, and why investors should focus on helping families instead of rushing to get contracts signed.
She also discusses lead stacking, direct mail campaigns, follow up strategies, and why most investors quit long before the best opportunities arrive.
Key Topics
How Sharon became an accidental wholesaler
Why probate investing works in every market
Understanding the probate process
Building trust with motivated sellers
Why direct mail still produces results
Using lead stacking to find stronger opportunities
Why consistent follow up matters more than quick wins
Common mistakes investors make when contacting probate leads
Guest Information
Sharon Vornholt is a real estate investor, educator, and probate investing expert who has been investing since 1998. She teaches investors how to build systems for finding off market deals through probate marketing.
Website:SharonVornholt.com
Probate Course:ProbateInvestingSimplified.com
Free Probate Investing Starter Kit:ProbateInvestingSimplified.com/starterkit
Call to Action
Visit Sharon's website to learn more about probate investing and download her free Probate Investing Starter Kit, which includes a sample probate letter and a probate timeline.